Do you know about munmaanta'qw?

Yes, I know about that...

That's what you can speak about.

When a new baby boy is born, it is never…

Her uncles seemed to be evil people.

There was just one person that was doing that, but maybe there were more.

As soon as the baby was born, the uncle would go to see if it was a girl.

If it was a girl, they would just leave the baby alone.

If it was a boy, they would kill it.

None of the boys were left alive to grow.

Then, one day, another girl had a baby, and she hid the baby boy's thing.

And when the uncle got there, he felt the baby to make sure it was really a girl, and then he left it alone and went away.

And they heard the baby when it cried.

[And then the uncle said,] “That baby that's crying really sounds like a boy.

You'd better go examine it again.”

So again, they went to do that, and they arrived there.

So, they asked again if it was really a girl.

“It's really a girl, a girl”, the mother said.

Eventually, she decided to flee.

Very early in the morning, she left, walking.

Was it the chief that was doing all that?

Aha, he was a warrior.

He did those bad things for whatever reason.Maybe he was uneasy about [losing his status,] whatever...

So, he killed them, like how the First People used to kill each other.

And so that woman fled, walking upstream.

She kept walking until she arrived to shxuxeey'elu.

And the baby was crying, and that's where she bathed him.

After she finished bathing the child, then she started walking again until she reached Quamichan.

And then she bathed him again, and she had a shell, whatever kind of shell—horse clam or whatever.

They were different then,

She laid him down and prepared [a bath], put water in a container, and she bathed her baby.

That's why it's referred to as Little Dish, that place on your land.

That's a little dish.

After all that she did, she started to walk again, and she came uphill towards Amelia Bob's place, getting to where the church was.

What's the name of that place?

Reaching that place, her baby was crying non-stop again.

And she bathed him again, using that shell.

And again, she filled it with water, and again she bathed her child.

After she finished doing that, she started walking again.

And thus, they named that place ts'e'wi'tun.

That's why they are calling that place ts'e'wi'tun.

St. Peters, Dish.

Yes, and the one at your land is the little dish, the small one, and its name means small.

And then again, she started to walk.

And then she started to follow the creek, here to hwkw'sutsum.

And then she got as far as a place over there.

And indeed, there was a big rock in that place where she was, and they camped out there, building their home.

Where they lived was a good place for catching trout for them to eat.

And then... no, I jumped in my story and got ahead in what I said.

I got too far ahead.

He kept bathing.

He was bathing... I'll keep going...

He kept bathing.

He scrubbed himself, scrubbed with the boughs.

And when he was doing that, he would shake the boughs.

And when they hit in the water, they started to swim...

The nettles from the boughs started to swim.

They hit the water, and what was swimming turned into trout.

Every time he bathed, that happened.

He shook the branch, and the nettles hit the water and would start swimming.

They would turn into trout, little trout, fingerlings.

So, this is where the trout came from.

It's because of Q'ise'q taking a bath that the trout appeared.

He's telling this story clearly; good.

That's why the trout is here at Quamichan.

And perhaps that's why that place is known as Hwkw'sutsum, 'place full of trout'.

That big boulder is there, and that's Q'ise'q's mother.

And that's where he was growing.

Then the mother warned him, “Don't go too far that way, son.

Just stay close by when you play.”

He was holding a bow and arrow that was prepared for him.

So, he started hunting the birds, fixing them, pulling the skins off the birds, and they were sewn together to make an outfit.

All the different species of birds that he killed were in his outfit.

And he arrived at that place where he was bathed.

And he was getting strong and becoming a young man.

He lay down on the bluffs, where it was beautiful, just lying there, reclining.

At hwkw'ukw'uqe'num'.

And something came flying by, and it saw the beautiful outfit that he had on, warming himself on the bluff.

And he came flying down, circling around him.

He circled around him again, and then he came down and landed near him.

And then he went close to the one that was lying on his back, and spoke to him, “Your outfit is very beautiful.

I'm really wanting your outfit.

I want to take your outfit, and you can exchange it for my outfit.

And if you agree and put it on, you will be able to fly, the way I was flying before I landed.”

And then he says “I really want my outfit.”

“But I'm really wanting your outfit.”

“Well, perhaps if you really want it, I will give it to you and...”

“Ah, okay! And if you use this, you can try to fly; go and do it now.”

So, he put it on; Q'ise'q did put it on.

And so, he told him, “Try to do it like this, then.”

And he did this, and he started to tremble.

And he started to fly, Q'ise'q did.

And he was told that he had done enough and to go back and return.

Oh, you're good! You did good.

You did it just the way I told you.”

“Okay, you can have my outfit then.”

“good”

So, they traded, and the one that was flying wore Q'ise'q's outfit, and he ended up just walking.

And Q'ise'q was able to fly.

And Q'ise'q just flew off, and he went to where his mother was.

And then he went flying, circling around his mother.

What he was wearing made a loud flapping sound.

The noise of his outfit was quite loud.

And then he would just hide his outfit.

And he would just walk home to his mother.

He arrived and she told him, “Son, whatever was that, I wonder, that was that was flying around?

It came around here, and I got really scared.”

And he pretended that he didn't know what it was, even though it was actually him.

Then he started thinking that he wanted to go to the place that his mother forbade him ever to go to.

“Okay, I'm going to go take a look.”

And so, on the next day, he went off.

And he arrived there.

And he didn't really show himself; he just landed.

And he saw the ones playing a ball game called qi'qtum'as, either qi'qtum'as or, what is is called, ts'uqwula'.

I think what they were playing was called ts'uqwula'.

A deer's tail was attached to it, and they were throwing it.

And they were catching it just like a baseball.

The tail was attached to it, and it would be thrown to their own team.

And the one that catches it would run.

The knot of a tree was what they made their ball from.

It was from the vine maple tree.

I think it was the vine maple tree that you find that kind of [knot].

And the deer tail was attached to it...

And the deer tail was attached to it.

And that's how... what is it called... the thing they were throwing was identified.

And when they catch it, they run with it.

It's really like a scrimmage.

It's like a scrimmage when they scramble for it.

And they were running from one end to the other.

And he was watching.

So, he found out about them, and then he went back home.

So, he started to look for a weapon, thinking he was going to kill his uncles.

That is where he was from before he came to the place they fled to, where his mother fled with him.

It had been really forbidden, and he already knew what had happened.

So, he cut down some wood that was pole-like to make a club with.

And he was testing it on the rock.

But the stick would just break.

He clubbed the rock, and it would just smash, break.

He did this until he found one that was good.

I think that was yew that he found.

So, he cut it and tried it, and the rock broke.

What he prepared was quite long, and one end was thicker.

So, he made it into his club.

And the next thing he did was to go to where his alleged uncles were.

And they were all playing again.

And he arrived there, flying.

And he knew where they were coming from.

And it was like that; he went toward where they were going.

And he clubbed the ones that were running, breaking their heads.

And was clubbing them as they were running.

While he was flying, they were just running.

And he was hitting them on their heads.

When the club hit their heads, they would split open.

Their heads were rocks, and that's what he was doing to the Stoneheads.

Raphael Johnny is always saying that Stoneheads are crazy.

And maybe it's true.

Is it over here at Greenpoint?

That's right, over at Xinupsum, Kw'etqum

That's the one called Kw'etqum', where the water was over there; that was their water.

That running water came from up above, and it hit the...

I guess this water is dry now.

It's maybe...

Over at Kw'etqum'.

Yeah, that water is Kw'etqum'.

So, maybe that was Samuel's place.

That's where the home of the Stoneheads was.

And his uncles all perished.

He clubbed them, and their heads burst.

And they just perished; he finished off his uncles, and he landed where his house used to be.

And he was told that he would be given a young lady.

And so, the girls were lined up.

And he didn't want the eldest.

It was only the youngest one, who was called Scabby Head.

That's the one he chose.

That's the one he wanted.

All the young ladies primped.

So, the girls made themselves pretty, applying ochre on their cheeks.

But it wasn't one of the pretty ones.

It was just Scabby Head, right at the end.

That's the one he wanted and took.

And so that's end of that, and that story is finished.

It's not

It is finished

It is finished.

That's finished.

That good?

It is.

He married Scabby Head.

Yes, he was given Scabby Head as his wife from the people.

He didn't want any of the pretty older sisters of Scabby Head, that were all dolled up, that had ochre paints on their cheeks.

Did he kill only his uncles when he slaughtered them?

No, there were others that were there, and everyone was slaughtered.

This is what used to happen when they used to war with each other.